1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:11,820 [Music] 2 00:00:16,810 --> 00:00:14,709 so we recognize that science is not 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:16,820 something magical or even something 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:19,610 fixed it's a man-made it's a social 5 00:00:24,730 --> 00:00:22,610 institution and the process of becoming 6 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:24,740 the science we know today it's pushed 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:27,470 aside other perspectives on reality 8 00:00:35,170 --> 00:00:29,930 first religion and then some other 9 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:35,180 options sciences today mankind's 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:37,910 greatest generator of new knowledge and 11 00:00:43,420 --> 00:00:40,489 it's also a verifier of new knowledge 12 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:43,430 regardless of where it comes from the 13 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:47,170 beta the database is absolutely huge 14 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:50,089 science is a major force in modern 15 00:00:56,740 --> 00:00:52,640 society like it or not and it has many 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:00:56,750 worldly classical consequences some good 17 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:00,170 some bad now science works through the 18 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:03,110 societal paradigm within which we live 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:09,080 and even though the paradigm was 20 00:01:15,310 --> 00:01:11,450 initiated by science starting a few 21 00:01:19,179 --> 00:01:15,320 hundred years ago the paradigm now 22 00:01:22,469 --> 00:01:19,189 pervades every aspect of modern life it 23 00:01:25,749 --> 00:01:22,479 controls the uses of science 24 00:01:28,679 --> 00:01:25,759 applications it has many practical 25 00:01:32,109 --> 00:01:28,689 effects upon mankind and his planet and 26 00:01:36,219 --> 00:01:32,119 it's prevalent and dominating presence 27 00:01:39,459 --> 00:01:36,229 for every one of us by golly whether 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:39,469 you're a scientist or you're not it 29 00:01:44,050 --> 00:01:41,570 governs how you think about yourself and 30 00:01:46,450 --> 00:01:44,060 your place in the world I got it sets 31 00:01:49,179 --> 00:01:46,460 much of your personal system of values 32 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:49,189 attitudes and beliefs if you don't 33 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:52,609 accept that just look a little deeper it 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:54,710 struggling influences your ability to 35 00:01:59,410 --> 00:01:56,810 discriminate from one thing into the 36 00:02:01,539 --> 00:01:59,420 next and the decisions that you make and 37 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:01,549 the relationships with people that you 38 00:02:08,770 --> 00:02:06,710 set up it's always there well science is 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:08,780 changing now I think you can agree with 40 00:02:13,690 --> 00:02:11,090 that and the paradigm is changing too 41 00:02:19,330 --> 00:02:13,700 although much slower it's going to take 42 00:02:24,759 --> 00:02:22,160 centered central to all of this is to 43 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:24,769 understand the limitations of science 44 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:31,500 and how they're becoming more apparent 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:33,890 with every generation 46 00:02:39,259 --> 00:02:37,170 what are these shortcomings of modern 47 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:39,269 science let's spell them out 48 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:42,510 many observed anomalous phenomena are 49 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:45,209 taking place to which science has no 50 00:02:51,650 --> 00:02:48,030 understanding an explanation or even in 51 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:51,660 many cases any means of exploring we all 52 00:02:57,229 --> 00:02:54,959 know about that one there occurring in 53 00:02:59,229 --> 00:02:57,239 psychology parapsychology the social 54 00:03:02,660 --> 00:02:59,239 sciences and even in quantum physics 55 00:03:05,539 --> 00:03:02,670 where human extension extends well 56 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:05,549 beyond our senses and our instruments we 57 00:03:11,089 --> 00:03:08,400 know that now the human mind is an 58 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:11,099 active agent and the observations that 59 00:03:15,979 --> 00:03:12,930 were making the experiments that were 60 00:03:19,630 --> 00:03:15,989 conducting not especially in healing the 61 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:19,640 mind is involved for heaven's sakes 62 00:03:24,170 --> 00:03:22,110 there are instantaneous physical 63 00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:24,180 interactions that can occur over great 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:26,160 distances and some effects sometimes 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:30,090 precede their causes top-down effects 66 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:33,450 are real as much as if not more than the 67 00:03:37,930 --> 00:03:35,459 bottom-up effects that we get through 68 00:03:40,370 --> 00:03:37,940 our reductionism 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:40,380 something's wrong with randomness it's 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:43,290 not exactly what we think it is there 71 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:46,010 are hidden factors taking place 72 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:49,260 double-blind experiments well we've been 73 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:52,590 living right in for a long time but we 74 00:03:56,090 --> 00:03:54,690 find out through our experiments that no 75 00:03:58,910 --> 00:03:56,100 one is fully blind 76 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:58,920 how can you conduct a randomized control 77 00:04:04,420 --> 00:04:01,680 experiment when everybody knows at least 78 00:04:08,539 --> 00:04:04,430 at a subconscious level what's going on 79 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:08,549 the second major shortcoming is that 80 00:04:14,180 --> 00:04:11,609 science is based on a set of root 81 00:04:18,259 --> 00:04:14,190 metaphysical assumptions that limit what 82 00:04:20,750 --> 00:04:18,269 it's qualified to explore and you know 83 00:04:23,719 --> 00:04:20,760 if your assumptions are violated or not 84 00:04:26,980 --> 00:04:23,729 supported you can't trust your results 85 00:04:32,119 --> 00:04:26,990 right we require objectivity 86 00:04:35,689 --> 00:04:32,129 measurability replicability and we have 87 00:04:39,499 --> 00:04:35,699 we are assuming causality mainly through 88 00:04:43,249 --> 00:04:39,509 reductionism the third difficulty with 89 00:04:45,679 --> 00:04:43,259 science is that it has no built-in set 90 00:04:48,919 --> 00:04:45,689 of values to govern inquiry and 91 00:04:51,409 --> 00:04:48,929 especially application any and all 92 00:04:54,109 --> 00:04:51,419 applicate explorations in science are 93 00:04:57,109 --> 00:04:54,119 fair game right regardless of the 94 00:05:00,649 --> 00:04:57,119 consequences and this is a sacred right 95 00:05:03,019 --> 00:05:00,659 among scientists and some of those 96 00:05:10,969 --> 00:05:03,029 consequences are pretty horrendous you 97 00:05:16,159 --> 00:05:10,979 must agree well how are we going to deal 98 00:05:18,889 --> 00:05:16,169 with all this first we can observe one 99 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:18,899 thing that there's a serious gap between 100 00:05:25,129 --> 00:05:22,800 the science and human life what science 101 00:05:27,949 --> 00:05:25,139 is saying about humans and what we know 102 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:27,959 from our own experience as being humans 103 00:05:34,069 --> 00:05:31,529 doesn't quite match so in the human area 104 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,079 science is a weak means for both 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:36,800 discovery and validation the two major 106 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:40,289 activities of science finding out new 107 00:05:46,579 --> 00:05:43,110 potential knowledge and verifying 108 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:46,589 whether knowledge is true or not so this 109 00:05:50,329 --> 00:05:48,089 implies that we're going to have to go 110 00:05:51,709 --> 00:05:50,339 back to fundamentals right where does 111 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:51,719 knowledge come from in the first place 112 00:05:58,249 --> 00:05:54,479 how do we gain access to it in order to 113 00:06:00,949 --> 00:05:58,259 generate new knowledge why do why do we 114 00:06:04,069 --> 00:06:00,959 have to go back because the shortcomings 115 00:06:07,009 --> 00:06:04,079 of science can't be resolved within the 116 00:06:09,019 --> 00:06:07,019 same with the same level of at the same 117 00:06:13,549 --> 00:06:09,029 level perception of which they've become 118 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:13,559 apparent we've got a step beyond we need 119 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:15,419 another way of knowing besides the 120 00:06:22,939 --> 00:06:19,769 familiar scientifically this is so we 121 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:22,949 can extend the present-day science into 122 00:06:29,209 --> 00:06:25,529 this fuller realm to embrace the mind 123 00:06:33,529 --> 00:06:29,219 and human factors as we know them 124 00:06:36,169 --> 00:06:33,539 personally so well so the solution must 125 00:06:39,619 --> 00:06:36,179 somehow derive from the subjective nam 126 00:06:41,339 --> 00:06:39,629 material a causal metal and parsley 127 00:06:43,290 --> 00:06:41,349 timeless domain 128 00:06:46,619 --> 00:06:43,300 from which the anomalous potential are 129 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:46,629 arising we just can't avoid this we've 130 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:49,710 got a dip in there for our solution 131 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:52,449 important to SSC we were darn right 132 00:06:57,300 --> 00:06:54,310 we're already on the leading edge 133 00:06:59,550 --> 00:06:57,310 because we're exploring these many 134 00:07:02,339 --> 00:06:59,560 anomalous phenomena and how they're 135 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:02,349 working we've got to continue doing this 136 00:07:07,439 --> 00:07:05,919 this is our charge but unfortunately 137 00:07:09,809 --> 00:07:07,449 we're still trying to study these 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:09,819 anomalies by using the old methodology 139 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:12,330 or at least a lot of us are doing this 140 00:07:19,260 --> 00:07:16,360 that's not gonna work so a major focus 141 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:19,270 is needed now on new methodologies new 142 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:21,130 ways of knowing new ways of acquiring 143 00:07:30,990 --> 00:07:28,960 knowledge that's our next challenge well 144 00:07:34,140 --> 00:07:31,000 what I want to do and the rest of my 145 00:07:36,689 --> 00:07:34,150 time is to present another way of 146 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:36,699 acquiring knowledge that we could use 147 00:07:48,770 --> 00:07:40,810 may use in future science and give 148 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:52,940 first of all man possesses I'll make 149 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:55,110 this as an assertion and try to justify 150 00:08:00,800 --> 00:07:58,050 it certainly man possesses an innate 151 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:00,810 capacity for accessing new information 152 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:03,450 and knowledge directly without recourse 153 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:05,610 to rationality sense perception or 154 00:08:12,379 --> 00:08:09,360 memory it's rightly called intuition or 155 00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:12,389 direct knowing or innate knowing or 156 00:08:19,490 --> 00:08:15,120 knows the Greek term from which we get 157 00:08:21,590 --> 00:08:19,500 gnosis and no Eddings intuitions a 158 00:08:23,630 --> 00:08:21,600 universal Faculty of the mind is 159 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:23,640 practiced everywhere throughout human 160 00:08:31,460 --> 00:08:28,500 history and widely up until the rise of 161 00:08:33,950 --> 00:08:31,470 science itself it's an essential part of 162 00:08:38,140 --> 00:08:33,960 thought but it functions invisibly and 163 00:08:40,670 --> 00:08:38,150 in the background it shows itself in 164 00:08:43,550 --> 00:08:40,680 serendipities and insights revelations 165 00:08:48,230 --> 00:08:43,560 gut feelings and the others that I've 166 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:48,240 listed here mainly and if not entirely 167 00:08:53,810 --> 00:08:52,290 when the intellect is put at rest and 168 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:53,820 turned off momentarily 169 00:09:00,020 --> 00:08:56,930 then it didn't then it leaks through 170 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:00,030 more over intuition isn't a special gift 171 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,610 that it belongs to a few people but it 172 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:05,040 belongs to everybody that can develop be 173 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:07,770 developed intentionally by anyone 174 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:10,320 there's a very good evidence that this 175 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:14,250 is so rather Hugh persons choose to 176 00:09:19,730 --> 00:09:16,730 develop intuition deliberately however 177 00:09:22,190 --> 00:09:19,740 how there's a class though of expert 178 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:22,200 intuitive I call them that have done 179 00:09:27,860 --> 00:09:24,140 this and developed their intuitive 180 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:27,870 ability into a refined skill you can do 181 00:09:33,079 --> 00:09:30,810 this too if you want to these expert 182 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:33,089 intuitive's have been shown to have 183 00:09:40,190 --> 00:09:37,680 access to almost any information that's 184 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:40,200 a very strong statement and I hope in 185 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:42,510 the rest of the talk I can show you that 186 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:46,560 it's true where is it what's a source of 187 00:09:52,340 --> 00:09:47,430 this knowledge 188 00:09:54,410 --> 00:09:52,350 well it seems it seems to be well known 189 00:09:58,490 --> 00:09:54,420 throughout history and in different 190 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:58,500 areas it's called in in one sense the 191 00:10:03,309 --> 00:10:01,279 collective unconscious that's Carl Jung 192 00:10:05,379 --> 00:10:03,319 but it also goes by several of their 193 00:10:07,449 --> 00:10:05,389 names we don't have to wait for an 194 00:10:11,619 --> 00:10:07,459 explanation of the mechanism by which 195 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:11,629 this source is working we don't we don't 196 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:13,730 ask this for human language even though 197 00:10:26,379 --> 00:10:24,170 we use it every day but it's there there 198 00:10:28,509 --> 00:10:26,389 are popular examples of these expert 199 00:10:31,059 --> 00:10:28,519 intuitive so actually are functioning in 200 00:10:33,790 --> 00:10:31,069 the world many mystics prophets artists 201 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:33,800 scientists and the best of today's 202 00:10:39,790 --> 00:10:36,290 spiritual teachers are functioning with 203 00:10:42,489 --> 00:10:39,800 intuition in this very effective way in 204 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:42,499 the 1980s and this at the center of 205 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:45,350 applied intuition in San Francisco we 206 00:10:53,379 --> 00:10:48,350 asked a question how far can we go in 207 00:10:55,689 --> 00:10:53,389 obtaining new knowledge intuitively what 208 00:10:58,739 --> 00:10:55,699 breadth of knowledge and how deeply can 209 00:11:03,579 --> 00:10:58,749 we go on how are you see is it to do it 210 00:11:06,730 --> 00:11:03,589 these expert intuitive's we use 10 of 211 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:06,740 them and applied them to 15 unsolved 212 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:08,809 problems that hadn't been accessible to 213 00:11:16,030 --> 00:11:11,569 ordinary scientific or other means of 214 00:11:20,009 --> 00:11:16,040 solution the first four of them 215 00:11:23,549 --> 00:11:20,019 earthquake triggering bipolar depression 216 00:11:28,449 --> 00:11:23,559 HIV and recover of recovery of lost 217 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:28,459 languages were all open unsolved 218 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:32,000 problems and moreover they were amenable 219 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:34,430 to scientific validation if we could get 220 00:11:41,980 --> 00:11:39,110 good answers ok several others were also 221 00:11:45,309 --> 00:11:41,990 unsolved but we were not optimistic 222 00:11:47,169 --> 00:11:45,319 about the possibility of solving them 223 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:47,179 that is of getting evidence that would 224 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:50,170 show that what we came up with is right 225 00:11:54,850 --> 00:11:52,639 cause and treatment a sudden infant 226 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:54,860 death syndrome decontamination of 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:11:57,170 nuclear waste material recovery of lost 228 00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:03,410 history and biographies of Imhotep 229 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:06,800 and the pre-christian Jesus as Jesus 230 00:12:13,780 --> 00:12:10,370 before the church took over took him 231 00:12:16,809 --> 00:12:13,790 over those red spots there indicate that 232 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:16,819 their books available in the bookstore 233 00:12:24,340 --> 00:12:18,769 if you want to pursue easier these 234 00:12:28,179 --> 00:12:24,350 further so information from me for these 235 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:28,189 first floor were the studies were 236 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:30,370 conducted and validated through 237 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:33,889 scientific methods the last one 238 00:12:40,090 --> 00:12:36,050 business consulting and personal 239 00:12:42,670 --> 00:12:40,100 counseling were self validated partially 240 00:12:46,389 --> 00:12:42,680 self validated just do the the actual 241 00:12:48,069 --> 00:12:46,399 use of them there are other similar 242 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:48,079 findings that have come from non CI 243 00:12:53,470 --> 00:12:50,649 studies mineral exploration exploration 244 00:12:55,809 --> 00:12:53,480 archaeology finding lost objects 245 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:55,819 military intelligence medicine medical 246 00:13:01,809 --> 00:12:58,730 diagnosis I think most of you know about 247 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:01,819 these and these were largely self 248 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:06,560 verifying these references are at the 249 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:08,540 bottom but I'll put them I'll show them 250 00:13:16,059 --> 00:13:13,910 again at the end first first of these 251 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:16,069 four areas which I'm going to discuss as 252 00:13:24,990 --> 00:13:18,050 evidence for the effectiveness of 253 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:25,000 intuitive inquiry in the ninth in 1975 254 00:13:31,179 --> 00:13:28,660 seismology was virtually at a standstill 255 00:13:32,590 --> 00:13:31,189 the earth the core of the earth had been 256 00:13:34,269 --> 00:13:32,600 roughly mapped and we knew her 257 00:13:35,889 --> 00:13:34,279 earthquakes are occurring all over the 258 00:13:38,290 --> 00:13:35,899 globe so we had a kind of long-range 259 00:13:40,389 --> 00:13:38,300 prediction of where they were going to 260 00:13:41,470 --> 00:13:40,399 happen next but we had no short-range 261 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:41,480 prediction at all 262 00:13:46,660 --> 00:13:44,750 a few earth measurements are being made 263 00:13:48,999 --> 00:13:46,670 where the earth has lifted how much it's 264 00:13:52,809 --> 00:13:49,009 lifting and higher and so forth but it 265 00:13:55,449 --> 00:13:52,819 was trivial so an intuitive consensus 266 00:13:58,269 --> 00:13:55,459 study was undertaken in on earthquake 267 00:14:01,299 --> 00:13:58,279 triggering and its associated precursors 268 00:14:04,079 --> 00:14:01,309 that is the signals that could be used 269 00:14:09,059 --> 00:14:04,089 to be measured to detect what's going on 270 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:09,069 we used eight expert intuitive in 1975 271 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:13,970 for and 75 for 1977 well the consensus 272 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:16,910 was rich in new information 273 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:19,970 here's a paragraph just so as a very 274 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:23,740 random example taken from these studies 275 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:26,240 I'll let you read it I won't try to read 276 00:14:44,290 --> 00:14:40,060 well this was incredible at the time it 277 00:14:46,150 --> 00:14:44,300 was totally far out because no one had 278 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:46,160 been looking into the atmosphere or 279 00:14:51,970 --> 00:14:49,910 space or electromagnetic phenomena there 280 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:51,980 were no conceivable mechanisms at hand 281 00:14:58,050 --> 00:14:53,839 to explain how they could have anything 282 00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:00,730 several new precursors were named some 283 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:02,750 mechanisms are explained various cross 284 00:15:08,070 --> 00:15:06,110 effects were identified and there was no 285 00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:08,080 contradiction with the firmly 286 00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:11,390 established seismological knowledge so 287 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:12,800 what are we going to do with this 288 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:16,010 well we carried it to the seismologist 289 00:15:22,090 --> 00:15:19,130 but nobody was interested not surprising 290 00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:22,100 I suppose so we published the article 291 00:15:30,670 --> 00:15:26,720 that an experiment forgot about it in 292 00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:30,680 too old one l2o one one we did a careful 293 00:15:35,740 --> 00:15:33,920 review of intuitive insights conducted 294 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:35,750 by comparing them against published 295 00:15:41,470 --> 00:15:39,140 geophysics articles first in 1975 to 296 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:41,480 show that this information was not 297 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:43,910 already known and then again in the 298 00:15:47,819 --> 00:15:46,910 period up to 2010 to show what had been 299 00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:47,829 verified 300 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:50,959 almost all the intuitive information was 301 00:15:58,030 --> 00:15:53,870 verified by ongoing research in that 302 00:16:00,460 --> 00:15:58,040 period satellite observations during the 303 00:16:04,569 --> 00:16:00,470 eight 1980s from other geophysical 304 00:16:07,449 --> 00:16:04,579 research in the 1990s and 2000's a few 305 00:16:09,389 --> 00:16:07,459 points were still unverified like the 306 00:16:12,010 --> 00:16:09,399 effects of the planets on earthquakes 307 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:12,020 but nothing was found it was downright 308 00:16:19,630 --> 00:16:17,600 wrong several new precursors are a good 309 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:19,640 bet for a future earthquake prediction 310 00:16:25,210 --> 00:16:22,850 system seismology is now a space-based 311 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:25,220 rather than a ground-based operation 312 00:16:32,530 --> 00:16:28,130 it's actually a big subject a major 313 00:16:34,630 --> 00:16:32,540 subfield of geophysics conclusion if the 314 00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:34,640 results of this study had been heeded 315 00:16:38,889 --> 00:16:36,589 earlier it could have saved much 316 00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:38,899 confusion in time that's for sure 317 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:41,720 the intuitive consensus inquiry could 318 00:16:47,290 --> 00:16:44,690 easily be extended now to get more 319 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:47,300 details similar studies could greatly 320 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:49,470 benefit future where could you 321 00:16:56,810 --> 00:16:53,370 physics and science generally another 322 00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:56,820 area bipolar depression or manic 323 00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:00,480 depression manic depressive disorder at 324 00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:03,420 this in 1980 was an almost complete 325 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:05,600 mystery there were a few jeanna 326 00:17:11,150 --> 00:17:08,250 indications of genetic factors involved 327 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:11,160 and lithium was being used as a partial 328 00:17:18,590 --> 00:17:16,410 treatment which way to go and intuitive 329 00:17:21,620 --> 00:17:18,600 consensus study was a undertaken using 330 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:21,630 six expert into ''tis to determine the 331 00:17:29,180 --> 00:17:24,000 best direction this work was done with 332 00:17:30,860 --> 00:17:29,190 dr. Paul Groff several new insights were 333 00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:30,870 obtained on the development and 334 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:33,480 physiology and treatment good consensus 335 00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:36,480 on many important points major findings 336 00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:39,860 the overall problem is terribly complex 337 00:17:45,620 --> 00:17:42,660 despite very simple systems so it's like 338 00:17:50,650 --> 00:17:45,630 cancer genetic approach would be very 339 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:53,390 lithium doses are should be reduced 340 00:18:00,910 --> 00:17:57,360 they're too large and 209 these findings 341 00:18:03,530 --> 00:18:00,920 relative to ongoing search on BD since 342 00:18:07,580 --> 00:18:03,540 1975 was carried out as we did for the 343 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:07,590 earthquakes strikingly correct on ten 344 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:12,810 major insights research is still stuck 345 00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:15,930 now despite massive data collection and 346 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:19,140 written analysis much still remains to 347 00:18:25,090 --> 00:18:22,110 be verified conclusion intuitive 348 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:25,100 consensus has significant potential for 349 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:27,690 obtaining needed knowledge on mood 350 00:18:34,730 --> 00:18:30,090 disorders psychiatric problems and 351 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:34,740 medicine generally another study was 352 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:39,810 done on AIDS in 1993 and it was verified 353 00:18:46,670 --> 00:18:43,860 in about 2010 same sort of thing 354 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:46,680 happened one of the main conclusions is 355 00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:50,400 HIV is an essential contributory to AIDS 356 00:18:59,030 --> 00:18:54,780 but is not is not its root cause are you 357 00:19:00,920 --> 00:18:59,040 listening Henry the susceptibility lies 358 00:19:03,290 --> 00:19:00,930 in the infection 359 00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:03,300 - the infection lives in a severely 360 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:06,750 depressed immune system well we're gonna 361 00:19:11,020 --> 00:19:08,520 have to skip the recovery of the lost 362 00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:11,030 language since we're out of time 363 00:19:15,650 --> 00:19:13,830 conclusions almost any needed 364 00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:15,660 information could be obtained through 365 00:19:22,610 --> 00:19:18,150 intuitive inquiry the evidence that this 366 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:22,620 is possible is now strong and actually 367 00:19:27,980 --> 00:19:25,650 sufficient there are four conditions for 368 00:19:31,130 --> 00:19:27,990 its accuracy coverage and success namely 369 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:31,140 work with only expert intuitive either 370 00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:34,350 yourself or hire an expert into it 371 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:37,679 either that's either yourself or hire an 372 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,230 expert into 'ti the inquiry questions 373 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:42,559 have to be clear and non perceptive and 374 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:47,010 objective no explanations needed strong 375 00:19:52,690 --> 00:19:49,350 and clear motivation for applying the 376 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:52,700 new knowledge not just curiosity and no 377 00:19:58,940 --> 00:19:56,970 harmful harmful consequences if there 378 00:20:01,760 --> 00:19:58,950 are any these will block the information 379 00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:01,770 so this has profound the implications 380 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:04,500 for the future of science for generation 381 00:20:10,370 --> 00:20:07,110 of knowledge generally and of course for 382 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:10,380 the role of SSE in this process I'll 383 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:12,150 have to skip over the individual 384 00:20:18,590 --> 00:20:15,809 challenge and just skip to this point 385 00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:18,600 that's a lot for us as individuals to do 386 00:20:22,850 --> 00:20:19,679 ok 387 00:20:28,669 --> 00:20:22,860 thanks very much thank you 388 00:20:35,299 --> 00:20:28,679 time for questions now any questions of 389 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:35,309 this hi Ron westrom I I was editor of a 390 00:20:38,350 --> 00:20:36,510 little newsletter for quite a while 391 00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:38,360 called the social psychology of science 392 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:40,620 and I got very interested in intuition 393 00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:42,480 and its role in both science and 394 00:20:47,660 --> 00:20:45,780 engineering one of the first things that 395 00:20:50,270 --> 00:20:47,670 one notices about this is it's a very 396 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:50,280 unequally distributed skill intuition 397 00:20:54,860 --> 00:20:52,650 we're very important equally distributed 398 00:20:57,530 --> 00:20:54,870 some people have it in great degree and 399 00:20:58,970 --> 00:20:57,540 some people not very much typically 400 00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:58,980 people who think of themselves as 401 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:00,840 theorists have an extraordinary degree 402 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:04,530 of intuition and the the level of some 403 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:06,690 people Tesla would be a fine example of 404 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:08,730 this it's just absolutely amazing in 405 00:21:11,630 --> 00:21:10,380 terms of their ability to model in their 406 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:11,640 mind 407 00:21:17,900 --> 00:21:15,570 systems and so forth it's also something 408 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:17,910 that's I think strongly tested by the 409 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:20,880 myers-briggs scale intuitive versus 410 00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:24,270 sensor and I think that's a it's a very 411 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:25,080 interesting thing 412 00:21:29,030 --> 00:21:26,670 Sall Restivo has a book called the 413 00:21:31,340 --> 00:21:29,040 subjective side of science and compares 414 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:31,350 the Apollo moon scientists in terms of 415 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,720 their love of either data or theory and 416 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:35,520 shows that each one thinks for the 417 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:37,890 others as unscientific could I answer 418 00:21:42,919 --> 00:21:40,320 that part first before you load my brain 419 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:42,929 with other part of the question I would 420 00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:44,790 say that they are speaking here not 421 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:47,460 about their intuitive ability but there 422 00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:50,580 but there the way they have actually 423 00:21:55,789 --> 00:21:52,380 developed it into something useful 424 00:21:58,460 --> 00:21:55,799 the a lot of other works says that we 425 00:22:00,500 --> 00:21:58,470 are all equally intuitive it's just a 426 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:00,510 matter of how much we let out allow 427 00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:03,600 ourselves to be that way you see okay 428 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:06,480 but go further people waiting so I'm 429 00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:13,080 gonna just one spot Patterson I was just 430 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:14,940 curious and maybe I missed that how do 431 00:22:21,950 --> 00:22:18,090 you identify who's an expert intuitive 432 00:22:22,430 --> 00:22:21,960 or how did you and good let's go about 433 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:22,440 that 434 00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:25,890 good question when we did this work in 435 00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:28,799 the 90s 80s the there were intuitive's 436 00:22:35,870 --> 00:22:32,070 coming off the wall so we had no there 437 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:35,880 was no lack of applicants but we 438 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:39,440 screened them pretty carefully partly on 439 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:42,570 to came it get information which they 440 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:45,809 had no way of know access to partly of 441 00:22:51,140 --> 00:22:48,690 which they might have access to but we 442 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,150 could corroborate with it partially with 443 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:53,520 old things like the history of sin 444 00:22:59,480 --> 00:22:56,850 ancient individual and partly by their 445 00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,490 work on actual applications that we were 446 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:01,440 working on or we could compare their 447 00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:03,870 results with others who had preceded 448 00:23:08,930 --> 00:23:06,540 them this was our way of doing it but 449 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:08,940 actually this was just a game because we 450 00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:11,490 had a pretty strong intuitive sense who 451 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:26,360 um I have to confess to a certain opera 452 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:30,240 or a suspicion of intuition and to note 453 00:23:37,210 --> 00:23:34,050 that a full discussion of your talk 454 00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:37,220 would be longer than your talk was but I 455 00:23:43,850 --> 00:23:40,679 I will restrain myself to noting that 456 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:43,860 I'm not terribly impressed by the list 457 00:23:48,020 --> 00:23:46,410 of scientific confirmations because at 458 00:23:50,540 --> 00:23:48,030 least some of the things you're scoring 459 00:23:52,940 --> 00:23:50,550 as hits our Barnum statements that would 460 00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:52,950 be true of almost any research program 461 00:24:04,490 --> 00:23:59,730 still in progress okay I'll have to say 462 00:24:07,070 --> 00:24:04,500 I guess the main answer to that is the 463 00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:07,080 information the evidence is sound but 464 00:24:10,580 --> 00:24:09,000 what I could talk about today is 465 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:10,590 certainly not a long list of the 466 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:16,190 arguments for or against certainly many 467 00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:24,620 authenticating the results that we have 468 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:29,100 and that would be an indication that 469 00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:31,530 people who have looked at this carefully 470 00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:34,860 are saying yes yes it's right what I can 471 00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:37,920 say now is very limited thank you very